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Coffee Break

06.07 - Posted by Editor
"Coffee Break"
1.7 mb, 2 minutes, MiniDV color, 2001
Written and directed by Lily Huang
Starring Natalie Kim and Mark Den Bleyker
Synopsis
 
A girl sends signals of romantic interest to a boy but he doesn't notice.
 
Filmmaker Bio
 
Lily Huang graduated from Brown University, where she was known in the class of 2000 as "someone who knows everyone" -- and yet she knew no one in MCM, the school's film department. That is, she knew no one until her last semester, when she took an MCM class as an elective to her uninspiring biology concentrator's schedule.
    Lily took a film production class at NYU the following summer, worked on a set of shorts directed by ex-NYU professor Pascal Aubier in August, and was a P.A. on an independent feature film in October.
    She lives with her parents in New Jersey. To their confusion and concern, she reads books about film and surfs webpages about film, writes e-mails, works on student films for no pay, and simply does not keep her room clean enough.
    Lily has a great computer that pushes her to keep going because it freezes if she stops typing for too long.
 
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Comments

Not properly representing your pplz can become a serious problem; especially when it's hard enough to break in the game as it is. I think the short is great work, and I agree with comments that more of the Asian men should be in the picture. There's always an audience no matter what the picture and cast. Stay true to yourself and you will make it. Don't be to eager to join a game that would exclude your people. Make your on game and let others play with you.

Posted By:
African American that's down with our Asian Brothers & Sisters

Posted by: JCJ on January 15, 2006 12:14 AM

Another thing...

I can understand somewhat the AM wanting to be represented...(or feeling underrepresented, rather).

I stress those gentlemen to not only speak out against underrepresentation, but write their own scripts and film their own movies to get their faces (and visions) out there to the public.

Posted by: jbk on January 9, 2006 05:52 PM

Interesting film...!(Shows what you can do in just 2 minutes).

Natalie Kim is a hottie...

As a Black male(who is also a director/writer/actor), I would like to see more BM/AF relationships depicted onscreen...(Maybe Miss Kim will be that AF opposite the BM actor? LOL)

Nonetheless, good film...

Posted by: jbk on January 9, 2006 05:41 PM

To All those that dist this film cause they think the WHITE guy is just simply WHITE. WEll, this just goes to prove the point that YOU have also fallen prey to prejudices ....because actually he's half white and half chinese. Just think about the challenges that he faces day-to-day with people like you that feel the need to classify people and speak --not on anybody's behalf, but simply your own selfish needs.

Posted by: Jim on November 24, 2005 01:58 AM

I wanted to know how I can contact Natalie Kim because I would really want her in my next short film. Is she in the Los Angeles area? If anyone knows please have her email casting@acrossthestreetfilms.com

Thank You.

Posted by: Charles on September 21, 2005 04:59 PM

wow. you guys look way too much into race. The signs of a true racist.

if ya can't get a date there is only one person to blame YOURSELF LOSER.

Posted by: anthony on May 26, 2005 04:29 PM

Years from now when China is a global superpower, we will look back upon this shameful era where Asian-American women were all rampantly infected with ATMS and Asian men were all unfairly villainized and White men idealized in all their works. Amy Tan will become properly immortalized as the Asian Uncle Tom. As will her legion of sellout co-conspirators such as this Lily Huang yatch. Her short film nothing but a mindless echo of our racist status-quo Zeitgeist and whose legacy shall be equivalent to Nazi Third Reich propaganda in WWII.

With time comes emotional distancing and more rational evaluation. These White male-supremacist ATMS views will NOT withstand the test of time! In fact, they are already cracking at the seams, ready to collapse! So, keep hammering away, my oppressed brethren! Free the truth, as the truth will set YOU free! Free at last, FREE AT LAST!!!!

Posted by: Anti Tan on May 23, 2005 03:02 PM

Hell yeah my nigga took charge of the situation :)

Posted by: Azn on May 21, 2005 09:45 AM

Uh oh, looks like we yet have another Asian female (Asian Female Viewer) stricken with AMY TAN MUNCHAUSEN (ATM) Syndrome!!

Fact IS, foot-binding was a SELF-IMPOSED voluntary trendy fashion fad copycatting Middle-Eastern proto-ballet dancers. The practice then slowly spread down to the lower classes - passed down from mother-to-daughter. Men had no guiding hand in it (and in fact they had to try outlawing it twice near the end), really. (Although, some may have come to appreciate it like with Victorian corsets or boob jobs today.) Well, at least it beat getting castrated like all the men who worked in the royal palaces! It wasn't only women who suffered back then - but at least it was more their choice.

"Tang court women followed Persian and Turkish fashions, wearing dresses with tight-fitting bodices, pleated skirts, and hats with enormous veils. And it was apparently imitation of foreign toe-dancing groups that originally led upper-class Chinese women to bind their feet. At first it was just palace dancers who bound their feet slightly, like ballet dancers, to stand on their toes." - When China Ruled the Seas: The Treasure Fleet of the Dragon Throne, 1405-1433 by Louise Levathes

SO, there's the truth for you. It was started By Asian Women For Asian Women. And stubbornly propagated by them too. And yet now, Asian-American female descendants completely-illiterate in their own history and divorced by immense generation/cultural gaps have hijacked the issue and twisted it for their own agenda/self-gain. In short, they've falsified and exploited it to elicit sympathy from the gullible White majority in this country - while reinforcing their Orientalist fantasies of Asians as weak, effeminate, helpless victims of their own inhumane traditions.

This would be akin to White women today blaming/rejecting White men because they wore disfiguring corsets in the Victorian Era - except even angry White feminists have enough perspective not to do that. And why would they? Such old practices are irrelevant today to them - yet somehow highly-relevant to Asian-American women who have never even set foot in China - where the practice was also stopped a century ago?

Ergo, Amy Tan Munchausen Syndrome. Selling out your race, culture and truth to assimilate into the naive White majority. Amy Tan wrote the book on this technique (pun intended) and it's now a bonafied epidemic amongst Gen-X Amy Tan generation!

Posted by: Anti Tan on May 17, 2005 11:00 PM

It is ironic that "bound feet" have become the rallying cry for Asian male oppression towards Asian women. In China, only the wealthy and elite women had their feet bound. It was a sign of luxury and opulance that a family could afford to have their daughters feet bound and she could spend her life idle. I am not saying that having your feet bound was a great thing, but a woman who had bound feet enjoyed a lot of privileges in life, such as servants, palaquin transport, and attendents.

Furthermore, foot-binding was practiced ONLY IN CHINA. The metaphor doesn't work with non-Chinese Asians. Not only that, but in China, foot binding was only practiced by the Han Chinese. The Manchus, the Khitan, the Mongols, and other various ethnic groups didn't practice it at all. Even withing Han Chinese, only the weathiest could practice it.

Next, IIRC, foot-binding was not practiced for 1,000 years. My understanding is that it became popular in the Yuan court, where female dancers had their feet and lower legs wrapped, giving a feeling of "smallness" and "gracefullness" to the feet. My understanding is that this foot fetish developed into full-blown foot-binding culture sometime during the Ming (approximately 1300-1600).

Finally, while there are a lot of gender inequalities that need to be addressed in the AA community, it is not like White men are unsexist and unracist.

sb1

PS: As a mixed-blooded Corean, I resent the fact that Whiteboys like DenBleyker interpretted the film as a greenlight for their Asian fetish and misguided White supremacist notions that Asian babies that are "less Asian" are more beautiful. As one of the mixed babies you refer to in your post, F*CK OFF.

Posted by: Seoulbrotherno1 on May 17, 2005 10:26 PM

This comment is disgusting:

"i do agree that casting an asian guy opposite natalie would have been more interesting. HOWEVER, this is a good movie with a good plot. AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY TO THE ANGRY ASIAN MALE RESPONDERS: Asian women have gotten crap for so long from asian males. do you think it's surprising that our earliest expressions through film would praise asian men? i mean, after all, they bound our feet for 1000 years. there's gotta be some residual pain.

"Posted by: Asian Female Viewer on April 29, 2005 08:06 PM "

It's this sort of irrational hate that sickens me to the core of my being.

Asian males, to say nothing of Asian-American males, are going to be hated for this?

But White males, they get a pass for all that they have done? They get a pass for committing genocide to a continent of people? (Native Americans) They get a pass for enslaving and destroying the future of another continent of people? (Africans) They get a pass for using an entire continent as a penal colony and decimating its aboriginal population? (Australia) They get a pass for slaughtering and raping and taking land to sell drugs? (Hong Kong)

They get a pass for all this, and we, who are just as American as an Asian-American female, as a White female, as a White male, we have to be HATED on by our own people?

There exists Black patriarchy. There exists Latino patriarchy. There exists Indian patriarchy. And ABOVE ALL OTHERS, there exists White patriarchy. Yet YOU choose to hate US.

Enjoy yourself. I'm sure your hate keeps you warm at night.

Posted by: Dialectic the Stealth M.C. on May 17, 2005 08:59 AM

I've finally met my soul mate. Natalie better move out of the way and make room for the future Mrs. DenBleyker....mixed babies are always beautiful!

Posted by: Megan on May 10, 2005 06:33 PM

i do agree that casting an asian guy opposite natalie would have been more interesting. HOWEVER, this is a good movie with a good plot. AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY TO THE ANGRY ASIAN MALE RESPONDERS: Asian women have gotten crap for so long from asian males. do you think it's surprising that our earliest expressions through film would praise asian men? i mean, after all, they bound our feet for 1000 years. there's gotta be some residual pain.

Posted by: Asian Female Viewer on April 29, 2005 08:06 PM

Lily, Great movie! it's perfectly fine whether you had two asian males or two white males. Most asian women I know have american male friends. No worries, Lily!
It was funny how Brandon was clueless. Oh yes, men and jealousy. It makes a point, doesn't it?!
Keep making you movies. Keep in touch! I am a music promoter from DC. Let me know if you need anymore background beats for your next flick. I'll be happy to help!

Posted by: Rhonda Mendoza on October 3, 2004 03:33 PM

Despite all of the criticism for using white males, I thought the film was highly enjoyable. I laughed at the end. Great job. What girl can not relate to that type of situation?

As for a previous comment about how stereotypical it is for Asians to be shown as math nerds, I say take a look around. We sort of are. (As much as I hate to admit it!!) X_X

Posted by: fencergrl on August 12, 2004 06:32 AM

Below are the old comments for this film. Please feel free to post your own comments! -- Editor
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Name: Marlene
E-mail: mtgdb@msn.com

More Mark PLEASE!!!!

12/28/03 11:12

Name: Stan
E-mail: s-wong-1@northwestern.edu
Web Page: Palad006

A short and funny film. I like the fact that you used the horrid subject of orgo for them to study. It makes sense for them to get some caffeine for that!

12/26/03 21:48

Name: the asian american male
E-mail: ekym@uclink.berkeley.edu

Nice movie. But I have to agree with the rest of the posts: your casting does step on the toes of Asian American male interests. Your movie would be more meaningful if your study buddy was an Asian American male, and his competition was the White guy. Not only would you have your movie as is, but you would also be making commentary on the state of Asian Americans in general.

12/02/03 05:19

Name: Nick Ng
E-mail: dantevirgil999@hotmail.com
Web Page: http://CAIRO (egypt)

Hey Kmethi matey what about the damn thing abput us asians being maths nerds? Don't stereotype us ok? salammalek

11/08/03 19:13

Name: Nick Ng
E-mail: dantevirgil999@hotmail.com
Web Page: http://CAIRO (egypt)

Hey Kmethi matey what about the damn thing abput us asians being maths nerds? Don't stereotype us ok? salammalek

11/08/03 19:12

Name: jmaps
E-mail: jmaps@verizon.net

nice work. i didn't think you needed the shot in the bathroom. the desire and ingnorance were well shown in the rest of the scene. i also agree that the kiss at the end was a little much. all in all though i thought it was great.

09/25/03 18:11

Name: Dan
E-mail: Solidmuscle4u@aol.com

Very well done. This film showed us all a common moment we either had or will have in life. The emotion was well portrayed by these artists. Both desire additional screenings in Hollywood. May I suggest contacting...Arnold Schw... Lily let's have coffee or tea sometime in Florida!

08/10/03 09:41

Name: Kmethi
E-mail: kmethi@hotmail.com

I thought that it was quite clever to make Brandon racially ambiguous. It widened the spectrum of interpretation of the race and gender dynamics. Some of the angry Asian American male responses below, which presume that there is only one objective interpretation, are ridiculous. Art is not like a math equation where 2 + 2 = 4.

06/28/03 14:42

Name: Ljova
E-mail: contact@ljova.com
Web Page: Ljova Music NYC

what a cute film! :) Cheers, Ljova

05/22/03 01:12

Name: Jeanette
E-mail: onedrmatime@yahoo.com

i like it, it's clever.

05/09/03 21:58

Name: Leslie
E-mail: lchen3@wellesley.edu

hey.. cute movie.. ah the fruits of procrastination.. i like how it's short yet still conveys situations that are very real.. i have too many guys in my life similar to "brandon" haha.. keep up the good work! : )

05/06/03 15:16

Name: Angry Asian-American man

god damn it, as if we need more validations of white males with asian females. What's wrong with using Asian males? we are people too you know, we have feelings too. Don't you think we have it tough in America? with ever +blocked+ing forms of media saying how worthless and useless peices of +blocked+ we are. To have an Asian sista deliver the same blow to our already destroyed and batter ego..... it hurts man.

04/27/03 05:50

Name: Kev
E-mail: none@nowhere.com
Web Page: FizGigs.com

Hi! Nice movie.

04/24/03 13:46

Name: Zeb
Web Page: FizGigs.com

Hi

04/24/03 12:17

Name: Anonymous

I can see myself in the guy's position; either one of them. I've been there and done that and know exactly what's going on. I'd have to agree with wrecks comment though, I think it's a bit harder for asian males to make it big in hollywood than the opposite sex unless you're already a big action star like jet li, and jacky chan. America just don't want to see asian males in drama. The stereotype is all asians know kung fu.

02/26/03 18:16

Name: Debbie
E-mail: debduong@hotmail.com

So true how that works. The male ego bruised so his competitive nature kicks in. So true...So wrong but true. Course it goes both ways...

02/21/03 11:10

Name: wrecks
E-mail: asiandemon@macpunk.com

*sigh* more images of AA females with "white guys". Im sure you'll do well if you make it to hollywood because thats whats they're looking for. Why is it that these type of pairings make it so big in hollywood and Asian American Males never get representation. Look for yourself at the movies comming out . If you dont believe me just look at this website which is flowing with 'asianphiles' and notice the comments of your movie compared to other Asian Males comments of their movies. You'll notice quite a difference. By the way the film was done well but your casting sucks ass. You should know the political statements that your casting makes in this day and time.

02/09/03 15:10

Name: wrecks
E-mail: asiandemon@macpunk.com

*sigh* more images of AA females with "white guys". Im sure you'll do well if you make it to hollywood because thats whats they're looking for. Why is it that these type of pairings make it so big in hollywood and Asian American Males never get representation. Look for yourself at the movies comming out . If you dont believe me just look at this website which is flowing with 'asianphiles' and notice the comments of your movie compared to other Asian Males comments of their movies. You'll notice quite a difference. By the way the film was done well but your casting sucks ass. You should know the political statements that your casting makes in this day and time.

02/09/03 15:10

Name: wrecks
E-mail: asiandemon@macpunk.com

*sigh* more images of AA females with "white guys". Im sure you'll do well if you make it to hollywood because thats whats they're looking for. Why is it that these type of pairings make it so big in hollywood and Asian American Males never get representation. Look for yourself at the movies comming out . If you dont believe me just look at this website which is flowing with 'asianphiles' and notice the comments of your movie compared to other Asian Males comments of their movies. You'll notice quite a difference. By the way the film was done well but your casting sucks ass. You should know the political statements that your casting makes in this day and time.

02/09/03 15:10

Name: Irene
E-mail: looooo3@yahoo.com

i liked it. great little twist at the end. i scoffed and got a little laugh out of it. i liked the girl. her character was very cute, but the fact that she had a boyfriend and was asking some other guy for coffee made you think twice. you could've had more than just cutting between shots of him and her during their study session. other views possibly? maybe it was just me; seemed like an odd use of space for her head to be to the left of the screen. didn't seem like a good use of space.

02/07/03 01:31

Name: john y
E-mail: ohsnapitzjohn@hotmail.com

maaaan that guy has got absolutely no game! you could already tell he's going to be those typical asian husbands that are extremely successful and has a trophie wife at his side. yeah. i dont get it how that guy just comes in and kisses her. i mean i'd be like "wtf? get off me woman! cant you see im trying to work my pimp juice here?" then again i wouldnt mind getting smooched out of nowhere.

02/04/03 21:52

Name: Wil Chung

Lily, I never thought minute movies could be long enough to delivery anything, but Coffee Break gave me a little chuckle. Reminds me of a comic strip where it delivers a punchline. Though I don't know anything about film, you might want to compose shots that are more interesting, instead of just talking heads. You don't always have to point the camera at the person that's talking. ;) Good luck. Wil

12/30/02 11:15

Name: Jake The Snake
Web Page: Fantasy Wallpaper

12/17/02 14:26

Name: Robert
E-mail: Robert1169@hotmail.com

I liked the simplicity of the film, as well as the subtle message it conveys, thank you for the effort :D.

12/12/02 16:27

Name: MarieG
Web Page: Welcome Home

Nice reversal!

11/26/02 00:50

Name: Antony Jessop
E-mail: antonyjessop@hotmail.com

hi, it was a great piece, the onething i would like to say about it is that the guy who enters needs to talk a word of affection like "hey sweetie and the kisses " the initial piece of introduction music was a piece that may be altered and can be given a concerto form as it creates intesity and more appealing. please do email me when can discuess a lot abt it regards Antony Jessop, i loved ur piece.

11/22/02 03:28

Name: Big D
E-mail: dannyx781@yahoo.com

I liked it but...I would've liked it even more if you had some porno music playing in the background and you giving him the "I want you baby" look. Then when you ask him to get some coffee he would say, "BITCH can't you see I'm trying to study?" Then you'd say, "Haha, you're so funny," with a big ole smile on your face. Other than that GOOD JOB!

11/06/02 13:32

Name: alex

LETS GET COFFEE!

10/24/02 21:19

Name: greg lum
E-mail: monkeysign127@yahoo.com

Hi Lily, I have one question about your short...why did you choose 2 white guys as your potential love interest? Was this just personal taste or is it just the reality of your environment? As "someone who knows everyone," could you not find a couple of asian guys at brown or even in Jersey?

10/05/02 03:28

Name: Janet Kim
E-mail: janetkim@attbi.com

I loved this one! Very clever and funny. Made me laugh out loud! Best one I've seen thus far.

09/18/02 04:30

Name: aliyaghoobi
E-mail: aliyaghoobi932@yahoo.com

09/16/02 13:34

Name: Kee
E-mail: kpyang2003@hotmail.com

Hmm...a subject that always pulls the pangs of my heart. But if its as hard as it is for Asian girls its twice as hard for Asian guys. I liked it but I would like it even more if you could do the film from an Asian guy's point of view. Like a couple of people said in comments before it so typical to have the Asian girl/white guy relationship. Break out and do something different. But I'm sure you're doing what is close to your heart. It seems so transparent that you were the girl asking that guy out. In any case good soundmixing for tension, agitation, and plotting.

09/05/02 14:31

Name: Rob
E-mail: robert@alumni.brown.edu

hey, a friend of mine pointed this web- site out to me. That was really cool! Are you going into film, now, or was this just a one shot deal? anyway, best wishes!

09/02/02 18:57

Name: Roger Lin
E-mail: rogerlin@cwru.edu

I could feel the tension here in my seat. It hit close to home. Good job, Lily! Roger

09/01/02 01:57

Name: lue vang
E-mail: subterranean_eco@yahoo.com

yo, kool flick. any suggestions/ advice for another aspiring film-maker.

08/10/02 08:06

Name: nargess

07/31/02 01:56

Name: JD Wong
E-mail: wngromit@aol.com
Web Page: above applies

I like the characterization of the short. It is something that is really hard to convey. The editing was fairly sharp, but the coverage needs to be a little tighter, which might have been the fault of the actors, also, the framing of the actors is a little distracting after a while, towards the end. I especially like the opening

06/24/02 02:52

Name: Dave
E-mail: retsnom@hotmail.com

Geez I just thought it was done well enough to give the real feeling of what it is like to want to ask someone out and get a nothing answer. To put so much preparation into something and get almost nothing out. I agrre the kiss at the end leaves two major questions though. The kiss was too aggressive to be a kiss from a friend so I assume it was a boyfriend but the reaction of "Brandon" would have led me to believe he did not realize this and was only then resorting to his male dominant role of protecting what he determines as his when he feels confronted by another male. keep up the good work. Bye Lily.

06/05/02 21:46

Name: Elijah
E-mail: ungluecksrabe@hotmail.com

haha I loved the ending. I do have to agree that the kiss was over powering. While I know that in movies as in animation, sometimes you need to push reality into a hyper-reality state to make things clearer, but the kiss makes claim of relationship. This may have been the desired effect. But her having a relationship and chasing after another, erodes the simpathedic response we have for her that you have set up so well. I think everyone would get the point without the kiss. Anyway, I loved your short! keep up the great work!

05/08/02 20:49

Name: Ode Curtis

Simple concept but very nicely executed! I liked the pacing of the film and enjoyed it a lot. Look forward to more of your work; what are you working on now?

04/23/02 20:56

Name: irfan
E-mail: irfancom@boleh.com

good

04/05/02 06:07

Name: Jonathan

Lily-- I really enjoyed your short film, and left wanting more! The "asking a potential love interest to coffee" scenario definitely captures the norms of our time and generation. My only critique, as someone else wrote, was that the guy coming in at the end and kissing her on the cheek raised too many questions in my mind. Who was he? Why would he kiss her? (especially if he's not a boyfriend, it seems out of place) Why would the other guy react so strongly? Do they know each other? I wonder if there's a way to end to is more subtle and doesn't raise so many questions.

03/16/02 04:32

Name: Aaron
E-mail: smiddley103@hotmail.com

I loved the compositions, whether intentional or not...Cutting off Nathalie's nose room did make her seem more intense, and the distance from Mark brought out his coldness well. I wanted to understand exactly what Nathalie and the kisser's relationship was, and how she felt about the kiss. A close up and a perfect take might have done it...(ie He kisses her, she looks at him with a bit of surprise, she glances at Mark and gives a little smile) And definitely a close up of Mark on his last line. Great film. Enjoyed it immensely!

01/24/02 01:27

Name: Tom Kim
E-mail: tkim123@mediaone.net

Not too shabby. The female actress looks like my sister, but the difference is that my sister only dates asians, ha ha ha. Seriously, a good peice for your film reel. Keep up the great work.

01/15/02 07:42

Name: Just Curious

Are you the creative powerhouse behind the Lisa Ling-frolicking-with-the-haole- dudes in the Old Navy commercials?

12/27/01 02:29

Name: more from mike

quick clarification...if you feel you are unable to show Asian-american couples in your future films...THEN you'll do well in hollywood

12/27/01 00:22

Name: mike

good first effort BUT...IS IT SO WRONG TO PORTRAY AND ASIAN-AMERICAN FEMALE ACTUALLY LIKING/DATING/MARRYING ANOTHER ASIAN-AMERICAN? Like the rest of mass media, is the concept so foreign to you that the idea is unimaginable? if so, you have issues and you've been raised by America well ...You'll do well in hollywood..

12/27/01 00:12

Name: jimelee
E-mail: jimelee@hotmail.com

For all those complaining about the casting, did you know that brandon is actually 1/2 Asian? Maybe we shouldn't be so quick to judge a movie based on what we think we see or know?

12/24/01 16:36

Name: Chris W.
E-mail: Boba1fett1@aol.com

Very nice. It's not often that short films can bring a smile to my face but this one did. Very sweet, and it's easy to emphasize with the character. Only thing I'd improve was the sound. (couldn't hear the guy as well as the young lady). Great work : )

12/22/01 05:13

Name: Pete K. Wong
E-mail: pete@liberatefilms.com
Web Page: http://www.liberatefilms.com

Hi! I am really bad at giving suggestions and those kind of things, since you are the creator, but first of all I liked it, because you did it. I liked what you were saying because we as humans (not the race)can all relate to the characters. I had a question what equipment did you use, could you email me back? bye

11/16/01 19:21

Name: LeRoid
E-mail: roid422@hotmail.com

Lily, nice job with "Coffee Break," it definitely reminded me of some "breaks" I've tried to get from women.

11/16/01 15:33

Name: hawkfin

It's the idea that counts... and it's there and a neat little twist. The whole racial/ethnicity representation is all a very personal preference which depends ultimately on where/when/how you grew up. Everyone's doing the best he/she can in life. Your voice is what counts. Keep on doing it to your very best.

10/28/01 01:59

Name: Niklas Drake
E-mail: ndrake@awod.com

I run a film festival in Charleston SC. Email me and tell me more about your film. Is it longer? Do you have other films/videos in the can. Would you be interested in screening something during the festival. Let me know, Niklas

10/16/01 22:28

Name: GullyShameless
E-mail: OGSimpson@Brown.edu

speaking as an asian american male or whatever, i don't think the film is necessarily anti-asian men. i just think the girl has some really really bad taste in men. those dudes were herbs! Amy Tan does suck though. I go to Brown, too and most asian girls are like that here. They just don't know. West coast girls usually seem to have their mind right(at least more than these ivy league asian girls). Most of these east coast asian girls (like at brown) have all kinds of issues and +blocked+ that go way beyond being scared of the yellow dick, so its not surprising to see this type of casting choice. but seriously, those guys were some dorky ass mother+blocked+ers.

10/10/01 03:25

Name: Amy Tan Sucks

Are there any asian women that like asian men out there? I guess amy tan is correct is depicting asian men as being weak. Because it seems like the director feels that way.

10/10/01 02:04

Name: Joy

I didn't understand the casting what so ever. It seemed to me that the director is either Anti Asian Male or just white washed. I would guess that she grew up in a predominately white neighborhood and never been with an Asian man. We as Asian Sisters need to represent our Asian Males as being strong and not weak. What was the point of casting 2 white male characters. Was it that hard for the Director to find 2 Asian men to play the part. The lighting was horrible and the sound was just as bad. Sorry sister but your film was not very impressive.

09/26/01 01:22

Name: rman54@hotmail.com

What's up with the white guys with Asian girl? Asian Filmmakers need to represent both sides of our ethnicity. This is just another film about an Asian girl lusting after a white guy.

09/25/01 20:55

Name: nobody

hola... gawd, so many film critic galore ppl... well, unlike everyone else, i have absolutely nuthin to do with film industry blah blah... and social political blah blah... so jus watchin it as yer average unartistic joe schmoe... i thot it was hella funny!!! lol, was laughing my head off... hehehe....

08/30/01 19:26

Name: sasha
E-mail: ajkula@guns.ru

hi!.. i'm serbian. i would like to exchange some mails with hyun, if you agree!! i agree with your point of view.

08/12/01 16:05

Name: sasha
E-mail: ajkula@guns.ru

hi!.. i'm serbian. i would like to exchange some mails with hyun, if you agree!! i agree with your point of view.

08/12/01 16:05

Name: jake
E-mail: jdilemma@hotmail.com

cool short that emphasizes on the male ego competitively acting when there is a threat. very real-life.

08/01/01 00:36

Name: Mang Yang
E-mail: mangyang@hotmail.com

First of all, COOL SITE– first time here (QT player is a PLUS)! Now about the film: "Coffee Break" breaks my heart, kidding- it's good for two mintutes. What I like about the authenticity is the moving car in the window, that is what makes a film more real, then I wish that in the editing room, maybe a faint automobile sound effect for enhancement. Keep up the good work.

07/23/01 22:27

Name: david

Digi-dude, to think u even have a chance with my sis, u friggin loser, im probably half ur age, and still probably can kick ur ass, and to think ur actually starting, very sad i may add, very VERY sad, btw to take my post so seriously, didnt u see the j/k j/k? apparently not (oh my god I hope that word doesnt surpass ur level of vocabulary) later... god damn pathetic lamer ^^;;

07/21/01 02:06

Name: Wes Kim
E-mail: wes@weskim.com
Web Page: http://www.weskim.com

Interesting--the message board software screens +blocked+, but not bullshit.

07/20/01 13:36

Name: Jerry
E-mail: dr_pluto@yahoo.com

A cute story and good camera work. The female lead is natural on camera. +blocked+ all these bullshit critics. Let's see their lousy films. And so what if you used white boys. You have to use what's available and I'm white and I dated a korean girl once who was super foxy and a good kisser. We should all screw each other and have brown babies. Keep up the great work!!!!!!!

07/20/01 12:38

Name: Helen Lee

hi lily, nice effort. keep it up! i agree with more challenging casting and content suggestions below. as this is a training kindathing, here are some quick edit suggestions: 1. trim the head of "i need a bigger brain" shot of brandon (overlap his voice with her previous shot, so the shot is as brief as him putting down his papers) 2. split the reaction shot of brandon to the kiss into two (ie, he looks up, cut to natalie noticing him noticing, cut back to him knitting his brow) 3. add final CU of lily to close the film that's my 3 cents, but who's counting...

07/17/01 21:27

Name: marilyn wong

good idea. well written. Irony rules. However the weakest part of your film is not the lighting nor cinematography--it's the casting. There are 3 scenarios that would have been better. 1) white girl, white nerd, white kisser all white and no political agenda-- viewers concentrate on story (or all asian-same result) 2) asian girl, asian nerd, white kisser shows asian male stepping up against white predator (social statement plus breaking asian male nerd stereotype-he fights back!) 3) asian girl, white nerd, asian kisser whole new set of conflicts and spin on the interracial dating issue. I hope to see more films by talented asian women. In my opinion, the more comments on the message board, the more interesting the film.

07/06/01 02:44

Name: Wes (Kim)
E-mail: wes@weskim.com
Web Page: http://www.weskim.com

Peter -- i KN0W u r, but WHAT m i?

05/19/01 17:32

Name: Tim

The movie was alright I guess, but I was kind of disappointed you had two white guys. It reinforces that whole stereotype of Asian American Females jocking white guys. I guess maybe you do, not that there's anything wrong with that. The movie overall was pretty shallow, but then again, you only had two minutes. But I encourage you to keep on making movies. Asian Americans need more of a diverse presence in America.

05/18/01 02:08

Name: Peter
E-mail: jiulonghks@yahoo.com
Web Page: Ji

Yo WesKIm? DUDE, you're a GEEK man! stop trying sound all funny and cool. you come off just plain lameass you F8Ck HEAD. I read your post, HAHA. what a friggin loser u are.

05/16/01 19:28

Name: Peter
E-mail: jiulonghks@yahoo.com
Web Page: N/a

Yeah, the film was pretty decently (shot for a first time try. i realize you only have two minutes, but i think that "cute" effect you're trying to pull off doesn't work. YO, why are there two whites guys in the film? Yeah, basically you're film is cheesey, the shots are bland, the actors can't act, the dialogue is not believable at all. i don't know too many college aged girls who practice asking dates in front of the mirror. you watch too many cartoons. real people don't do that. this film was a serious waste of my two mintutes. thanks for nothing.

05/16/01 19:20

Name: Wes (Kim)
E-mail: wes@weskim.com
Web Page: http://www.weskim.com

I'm not arguing for absolutes like antisepsis or formulism in filmmaking to the exclusion of organicity or chaos. (Isn't dictionary software fun?) Indeed, the flaws and roughness you speak of will inevitably find their way in, even if one were to try futilely to keep them out. However, I don't feel that craft cannot be ignored outright. The myth of the beauty of the unschooled approach to art is too often used as the defense of rank amateurism. [This doesn't mean you, Lily! :) ] _______________________________________ Interesting that you mention Picasso. Upon visiting an exhibition of drawings by children, Picasso said, "When I was their age, I could draw like Raphael, but it took me a lifetime to learn to draw like them." Could he have accomplished his later work by skipping his classical training, or does one have to learn before one can unlearn?

05/14/01 10:33

Name: Hyun

Why do you want your film to look good? Perfection repels; flaws and roughness invite. The smoothness of a mirror holds us on the outside; the bumpiness of a cloud allows our minds to discover unexpected images. The meanings in Norman Rockwell are complete; those in Picassso leave room for a viewer to do something to them and with them. Charles Burnett's Killer of Sheep would be a lesser picture if the photography were prettier. Our culture is obsessed with appearances. We are devoted to looking and sounding good. If your main concern is with how your movie looks, you're part of the problem. We live in a culture of ideal beliefs, ideal understandings, and idealistic presentations. It's impossible not to be at least a little polluted by the way life is sentimentalized, softened, simplified, and sanitized in the media. Fight to keep your script, your shoot, and your edit a little messy- in order to capture some of the messiness of life.

05/13/01 20:08

Name: Wes (Kim)
E-mail: wes@weskim.com
Web Page: http://www.weskim.com

Hyun: "Who cares if it's uncentered?" We all do, on some level, whether consciously or not. Visual conventions in film aren't arbitrary--they've evolved over time and serve as a vocabulary that filmmakers rely upon to tell stories in a way that audiences will comprehend. If a director breaks these rules, it has to be for a reason, because most of the audience will sense on some level that something's amiss. -- ---------------------------------------- --- Of course, directors can break the rules if they want, but they come from a position of strength if they do so knowing what the rules are to begin with and if they have a strong story justification for doing so. ------------ --------------------------------- If you violate conventions to achieve a particular effect in the service of your story, and if your choice produces the desired effect in your audience, then great--you've succeeded. If you do something that violates convention, whether intentionally or unwittingly, and the response from the audience is "I don't understand" or "That's seems wrong," then perhaps that choice needs to be examined. ------------------ --------------------------- The audience should be able to divine meaning in a film at the moment they're watching it because they've intuitively grasped the director's intentions based on his or her visual choices. Your defense of the off-balance framing feels like bending over backwards after the fact to rationalize a stylistic choice, when it seems unclear that it was indeed a strongly made choice. Based on the responses below, it would seem that the choice ought to be at least examined, and Lily has already said she is doing so.

05/12/01 22:42

Name: Hyun

Who cares if it's uncentered. Maybe it was a concious choice by the filmmaker. Throw out the conventions. I think it adds to her awkwardness and feeling uncomfortable by his actions.

05/11/01 15:55

Name: Wes (Kim)
E-mail: wes@weskim.com
Web Page: http://www.weskim.com

Nice job, Lily! Congrats on being the first Minute Movie'er to deliver final product! _______________________________________ My only gripes are basically an echo of Greg's and the other Wes's: Off-balance framing of actors, kiss indicating more than it should, lack of final reaction from Anita. _______________________________________ Sorry to just parrot what others are saying, but you know what they say--if a bunch of people all mention the same problem, it's probably worth looking into. _______________________________________ Congrats again!

05/10/01 14:17

Name: Sandy
E-mail: Midoray@aol.com

I liked your film a lot! Short and sweet. Very well done. One thing was maybe just the way it came on my screen, the shot of the girl at the library table seemed a little uncentered which bothered me just a little. Other than that, very nice and great acting!

05/07/01 18:11

Name: Lily

hi wes :) i dunno about the sound.. i'll look when i get the chance

04/27/01 11:25

Name: Lily

for the off-center "trapped" shot, if i find a way to re- edit, i'll definitely be able to find a shot to replace the first off-centered closeup. i agree that it is too much, too many of those shots as it is now.

04/27/01 11:10

Name: Lily

sorry for the short messages, i had to leave.. so yeah the movie is dark on mark's side. it looks better on vhs, you can see the stained glass windows behind him.

04/27/01 10:37

Name: Lily

so, i just watched the film for the first time on the web.

04/27/01 08:59

Name: Nicky
E-mail: nickyloi@mac.com
Web Page: Authorship

Hi Lily, I waited with great anticipation to watch your clip and boy, I'm impressed with how it turned out! Natalie's acting was naturalistic and entrancing, Mark's was subtle, and I liked the overall tone of it. Congrats and great job! There were the noticable lighting differences, but Nat's lighting did look good. Continuity was also pretty good, which is appreciated in small productions. Let us know if you have more things coming up! Again, thanks for your clip!

04/21/01 00:19

Name: Lily
E-mail: greimalkin@yahoo.com

Hey, thanks for the comments!! I'm reading them now.

04/20/01 11:35

Name: SB
E-mail: sb@hotmail.com

I think that mark denbleyker guy is the hottest guy i've ever seen in my entire life!!!!!! The things i could do to him! Where can i get his number?

04/19/01 16:40

Name: Keesun Lim
E-mail: keesu17@hotmail.com

HI Nat... hey unnie... pretty neat! I like it alot~

04/13/01 20:49

Name: Eunice
E-mail: Thesally86@yahoo.com

I really like the whole short! I agree with prior comments saying that it wasn't overdone, and I like the realism in the acting. It makes you drawn into the story. Hurrah for the work of the actors! ^__^

04/13/01 11:48

Name: a dude
E-mail: digidirector@yahoo.com

here's my ass... let him kick it if he can... (_Y_) nice? huh? anyway... if u can't kick it...kiss it! later...david... nice talkin' to ya... ^^

04/12/01 21:43

Name: DAVID AGAIN
E-mail: DKarchon@hotmail.com

I got it working! yay! mommys shoo excited XP

04/12/01 20:06

Name: DaViD "HUGgaBle" KiM
E-mail: DKarchon@Hotmail.com
Web Page: none yet

SIS!!!! I STILL cant c ur film, got some damn error =T. calm ur hormones "a dude" mah sis got a bF!! and he'll kiq ur azz!!! =D j/k j/k Imma sure ish wonderful tho =)

04/12/01 19:08

Name: HyperFlip

Hey all! This is kinda neat! this is becoming sorta like an online filmschool for APAs.

04/11/01 13:02

Name: Dan Elliott
E-mail: danielsan52@aol.com

Film is wonderful. Great pice of art. Natalie is fabulous.

04/11/01 10:19

Name: Rabyang Thonden Gyalkhang
E-mail: rabyang@yahoo.com
Web Page: realitydreamfilms

Wow Lily, your 2 mint. was great to watch I really liked it. My short film "Legends of HumBao" will be soon on the web and hope you and others will enjoy this too. Right now the web site is still under construction hope to finish it by Aripl 20th.

04/10/01 23:31

Name: Wes

hey, what's that shuffling noise at the beginning and end of the movie? I agree with Greg that the framing of the shots of Natalie was a little strange. Not that she has to be dead smack in the center of the screen... a more orthodox frame, I think, is to have more space between the edge of the view and the characters eyes *in the direction they are looking*. So, the exact opposite of what we saw... Natalie's face would usually have been placed on the right side of the frame.

04/10/01 22:09

Name: Dave Donaldson
E-mail: dave@dbda.com

Gentle, moderately subtle and not overdone. Good. I'm impressed. I like the edits, camera angles, and lighting, although some did come out a little dark and the bathroom a little light. But that's most likely the lack of dynamic range of QuickTime. I especially like the off-center framing in the late scenes. Don't be too sensitive to those that tell you otherwise. Not every thing in life is symetrical or balanced. By doing so you portrayed the she character as more intense and the male a bit more blah, which was certainly his attitude. It makes me want to see what you could do with a 3-7 minute short along the same story line. Tell Natalie I said so. dave...

04/10/01 20:31

Name: Greg

Hey, Lily. Nice job, with solid performances! So if you're going to cut some more, I'd recommend a few things. First, there are a couple of closeups of Natalie later in the film which are framed strangely -- favoring the left of the frame too much. If you have something better framed, I'd consider replacing the existing shots. Second, I'm not a big fan of the kiss -- to me, it implies a prior relationship between Natalie and the second guy, which puts a whole new spin on the story. Might be worth seeing if you can cut it out and how that affects the piece. Finally, I find myself kind of wanting to see a close up of Natalie as the last image in the film -- I'm thinking a little smile to herself, just so we can enjoy her little triumph with her. Again, congrats! -- Greg

04/10/01 15:28

Name: Lita
E-mail: jisc2000@msn.com

hi...its one of brookes friends. the movie was kool.no offense but i didnt really like the guy actor..he was ok...keep up the good work PPPPEEEEAAAACCCCCCEEEEEE

04/10/01 14:05

Name: Brooke
E-mail: brooke@dbda.com
Web Page: intermissions.net

GET MORE FILMS WITH MY BIG SISTER IN THEM! HEHE, it's nat's lil sis brooke, great job, and I like how suttle it is. The lighting was harsh though in some places...

04/10/01 13:41

Name: Melissa

I liked the script, but I thought that the editing of the movie didn't make sense. Brandon's comment about "needing a bigger brain" would have made more sense if you followed the script. The shots of Brandon did seem rather dark. Why did you choose to use shots so far away from him as compared to the shots of Anita? It would have been better had you mixed in some different camera views rather than stick with the same ones for each throughout. Overall, it was a nice beginner's piece.

04/09/01 19:11

Name: HyperFlip
E-mail: HyperFlip2000@hotamil.com

Nice work Lilly, I don't know if it's the quicktime or what not but the shot of Mark seemed dark. Asside that you have some nice compositions and engaging dialogue. It's simple, but hey it's only a 2 minutes piece. Best wishes! HyperFlip

04/09/01 17:01

Name: yoshi gates
E-mail: dragongates@hotmail.com

Hi Lily, A question and a comment for you: first was it deliberate that your shots with Natalie were close ups but with Mark are medium shots? Just curious. As well, I thought that the lighting around Mark could've been better as it was around Natalie. Overall though I liked it. I know how difficult it is to convey anything in such a short period of time but I felt you conveyed your meaning. Congratulations on completing a great short!

04/09/01 11:51

Name: Dan
E-mail: dk_wang@hotmail.com

truly inspired acting. That DenBleyker guy was good- I could feel his rage and jealousy. He's an actor to look out for in the future.

04/09/01 05:15

Name: a dude
E-mail: digidirector@yahoo.com

I wish i was the guy who kissed Natalie. She seems like a sweet girl. Natalie, if you are looking at this comments, give me a call. ^^;

04/08/01 22:31

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